Aug 042010
 

Let’s get a little chatter going, shall we? Most of you know this drill by now, but if you’ve been following along from the sidelines and want to make your initial splash in the Halls of Rock the following questions require nothing more than your gut answers! There’s no better way to jump into the fray because the only expertise required is a sound knowledge of and confidence in your gut feelings!

What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?

Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?

What artist are you most tired of seeing kicked around here unfairly in the Halls of Rock?

What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?

What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?

What artist’s sometimes unfair ass-kicking can you not get enough of here in the Halls of Rock?

I look forward to your responses.

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  1. 2000 Man

    What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?

    Something better than a rock nerd. I want to be a real Rock Star, with lotsa money!

    Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?

    What, like “I want my MP3?” No, that’s stupid. Sooner or later, the Great Unwashed won’t even remember those.

    What artist are you most tired of seeing kicked around here unfairly in the Halls of Rock?

    The Eagles. It’s not fair to the other bands that the tag “The Eagles Suck” doesn’t hit 70% of the posts here.

    What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?

    That they don’t fuck up the sound, and that it’s not too expensive. Oh, and that they don’t “remaster” it more than once every fifteen years or so.

    What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?

    The Buffalo Killers. Their first album is really super!

    What artist’s sometimes unfair ass-kicking can you not get enough of here in the Halls of Rock?

    Lothar and the Hand People.

  2. “What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?”

    I picked up the new Tom Jones album last week and I gotta say it is just great. Gritty gospel, the best Americana album of the year. Go figure.

  3. alexmagic

    I’ll have to give the ass-kicking questions more thought, but the rest for now:

    What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?

    A harp.

    Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?

    Probably not, since – sincerity problems admitted upfront – it’s hard to see anybody writing one that won’t be an obvious cash-in or wrapped too tightly in irony. If Daft Punk didn’t come up with a solid iPod song by now, it probably won’t be done, though if anyone can come up with a line delivered as well as “When I look back on all the CRAP I learned in hah-skewl” I’m willing to give it a shot.

    That said, does Kodachrome have much company? Were there any really good songs about VCRs or fax machines or rear projection TVs? If the next best nuclear age material goods song is ZZ Top’s “TV Dinners”, then maybe it’s harder than it looks.

    What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?

    That somebody will get an extra review copy and give it to me for free.

    2K: I have heard two Buffalo Killers songs (not both from the first album, though, I think) and quite enjoyed them. I’ve been meaning to look a bit further into their stuff. I don’t know if this is quite what they are, but they sound like they might fit into some vaguely defined menacing stoner rock (stoner noir?) genre that I wish I knew more about/haven’t just made up.

    Al: That does sound strangely intriguing. Not sure that I’ll actually look into it, but I think I could see how that might be interesting.

  4. Mr. Moderator

    I was thinking, alexmagic, of that big hit by Outkast (when’s the last time anyone’s listened to that double-album opus?), the one about shaking it like a Polaroid. Maybe there aren’t many other good songs about pre-digital media, but some good television songs come to mind.

  5. What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?
    a hit.

    Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?
    no

    What artist are you most tired of seeing kicked around here unfairly in the Halls of Rock?
    the doors

    What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?
    to hear an instrument or vocal something or other that i never knew was there

    What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?
    LA Woman

    What artist’s sometimes unfair ass-kicking can you not get enough of here in the Halls of Rock?
    James Hetfield

  6. BigSteve

    What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?

    A groove.

    Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?

    I continue to use the term ‘record’ to mean the recorded music irrespective of medium. I recommend it, because it’s non-specific, and media will change with increasing speed in the future. We’re probably closer than we realize to a time when ‘digital’ will be old hat. My real attachment is to the music. It lasts forever. Storage in anything but hearts and minds is temporary.

    What artist are you most tired of seeing kicked around here unfairly in the Halls of Rock?

    The Dead.

    What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?

    That the freshened up sound refreshes my ears and my memories as well.

    What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?

    Flying Lotus, Cosmogramma

    What artist’s sometimes unfair ass-kicking can you not get enough of here in the Halls of Rock?

    David Lee Roth, though it’s never really unfair.

  7. What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?

    A Lou Reed YouTube clip.

    Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?

    Probably. That Rufus Wainwright song “Vibrate,” about a cell phone, isn’t too bad.

    What artist are you most tired of seeing kicked around here unfairly in the Halls of Rock?

    Radio City-era Big Star

    What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?

    A separate disc for bonus tracks, without a jacked-up price.

    What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?

    Wussy’s self-titled album.

    What artist’s sometimes unfair ass-kicking can you not get enough of here in the Halls of Rock?

    Lou Reed

  8. alexmagic

    With the recent release of Big Boi’s (horribly, horribly titled) new solo album, I’ve gone back and found that I still really enjoy Speakerbox(xx)/The Love Below, though I probably have a greater affinity for Outkast and the George Clinton and Prince material that each half is drawing from respectively than most here.

    Super Furry Animals’ “(Drawing) Rings Around the World” is kind of a tongue-in-cheek ode to cellphones and other potentially cancer-inducing technology and it’s pretty great, so there’s one in the plus column that I forgot about.

    Kilroy: I freely admit to enjoying both Waiting For The Sun and Morrison Hotel, so I’d be open to a revisitation of LA Woman, which I haven’t listened to much of in some time.

  9. Mr. Moderator

    What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?

    A bassist.

    Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?

    I don’t know, the less tactile a media format or media device the harder it would be to turn into a song, I would think.

    What artist are you most tired of seeing kicked around here unfairly in the Halls of Rock?

    Mike Love.

    What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?

    That the engineer didn’t highlight any unnecessary details in the original mix coupled with some cool liner notes.

    What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?

    The Fiery Furnaces, I’m Going Away

    What artist’s sometimes unfair ass-kicking can you not get enough of here in the Halls of Rock?

    Mike Love.

  10. ladymisskirroyale

    BigSteve – Yes, oh yes on Flying Lotus. If you like that, have you heard Ganjasufi?

  11. ladymisskirroyale

    Reincarnation? A drummer

    Digital satisfaction? I think we need a little more time before fully answering this question. But I think Joy Division’s “Digital” is a pretty good start: “I feel it closing in…” Digital Underground has some fun stuff; I like “Kiss You Back.” And alexmagic, Daftpunk DOES have a digital song, as I found through my YouTube research: “Digital Love,” although I don’t think it’s top-notch.

    Ass kicked: Jesus and Mary Chain

    Reissue: clarity, extras, band interviews, linear notes

    New love to share: LCD Soundsystem “This is Happening”, Beach House “Teenage Dream.”

    Keep kicking: My generally kind, empathetic nature makes this a difficult question to answer, but in general, I would suggest continued wailing on Michael Stipe.

  12. bostonhistorian

    What would you like to come back to earth as in your next musical life?

    > A limited edition 7″ double gatefold.

    Can songs about digital media and related devices ever be as satisfying as songs about physical media and related devices (eg, Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome”)?

    >This assumes Paul Simon’s “Kodachrome” is satisfying. But no, I doubt it.

    What artist are you most tired of seeing kicked around here unfairly in the Halls of Rock?

    >Most of them who get kicked deserve it for one reason or another. No one has ever gone after one of my sacred cows though.

    What do you most wish for in a remastered reissue of a beloved album?

    >Demos, other songs which didn’t make it to the final product, radio sessions, etc.

    What’s the most recent album you’ve listened to that you really, really wish you could turn a fellow Townsperson onto?

    >Allo Darling’s new album is fantastic.

    What artist’s sometimes unfair ass-kicking can you not get enough of here in the Halls of Rock?

    >The Grateful Dead or the Eagles. And it’s always fair.

  13. 2000 Man

    Alexmagic, Buffalo Killers are pretty swell. The are kind of a Stoner Rock thing I suppose, but I think it’s more of what classifies as “heavy” here in the midwest. They came out of the ashes of Thee Shams, which was kind of a Southern Rock styled garage rock band, but their sound is much leaner as Buffalo Killers. Both of their albums are really good, but the first is the better one by just a little bit.

  14. BigSteve

    I keep hearing the name Ganjasufi in the same context as Flying Lotus, ladymisski, but I must admit the name made me a bit skeptical. I guess I should go for it.

  15. BigSteve

    And btw if you liked Cosmogramma, I’d recommend Pantha du Prince’s Black Noise, despite the also questionable artist name.

  16. ladymisskirroyale

    Thanks, BigSteve. Since Mr. Royale’s b-day is quickly approaching, I see a trip to the record store is in order; I’ll look for “Black Noise.”

Oct 032007
 

Is there any former pop musician to have actually turned to Da Blooz (or some other pre-rock form of folk music) who makes less sense than Peter Tork? I just heard him call into one of our local sport-talk radio shows, in large part to promote his upcoming area show as a “Chicago Blues” act.

Which noted ’70s sideman made the best solo album?

What’s your favorite primarily instrumental soundtrack album by a rock ‘n roll artist?

Quick: Can you name 8 Beatles-related engineers who would go on to produce successful albums in their own right?

Outside of his organ part on “Like a Rolling Stone”, what’s your favorite Al Kooper moment?

Who’s your favorite musician in a band you otherwise can’t stand?

I look forward to your responses.

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  1. Dude. What the fuck is that first question supposed to even mean? Proof and get back to us.

  2. hrrundivbakshi

    1. Tommy Ramone now plays useless bluegrass kaka; I seen ‘im, and it sucks reeeel bad. Also, J. Geils and Magic Dick are now in a blooz purist band.

    2. David Lindley, El Rayo X.

    3. “Local Hero,” Mark Knopfler. Surprised how good this LP is. The greatest movie in the history of film, also.

    4. No.

    5. The day his sorry-ass name showed up in RTH’s “Dugout Chatter.”

    6. Now *that’s* a tough one! Right now, al I’m coming up with is Mike Watt when he was involved with “Ciccone Youth,” but that may be cheating.

  3. Mr. Moderator

    Great One, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Please re-read that question. It makes perfect sense.

    Hrrundi, yes your last answer IS cheating, as you put it. I’m sure you’ll think of someone who better fits the bill. Come back to this one. Thanks.

  4. BigSteve

    1. None comes to mind.

    2. Hvb stole my answer. Very Greasy is my favorite El Rayo Ex album. Since I was beaten to the punch, I’ll go with Little Steven’s first album, Men Without Women.

    3. Ry Cooder’s Paris Texas.

    4. No.

    5. The french horn on You Can’t Always Get What You Want.

    6. Johnny Marr in Modest Mouse.

  5. 1. I believe Klaus Fluoride of the Dead Kennedys is now playing bluegrass. And to be fair, Peter Tork was a regular at the Gerdes Folk City scene alongside the likes of Paul Simon during the early ’60s. It’s actually the Monkees who were a weird aberration in his career.

    2. n/a

    3. Brand new: LA VIE D’ARTISTE by Tim Gane and Sean O’Hagan.

    4. Um…Emerick, Smith, Scott, Thomas…no, only four.

    5. His first book was kinda funny in parts. Little interest in his music, and my own minor interactions with the guy suggest he’s kind of a dick.

    6. Jonny Greenwood

  6. BigSteve

    It just occurred to me that David Johanssen doing the Harry Smith stuff is pretty weird.

  7. dbuskirk

    I’m a little off genre here, but Mr. Mod favorite Jame “Blood” Ulmer’s transition from skronky jazz to festival-ready bluesman has been a grating and unwelcome change to these ears.

  8. meanstom

    1. What BigSteve said: David Jo as American Musicologist.

    2. Does Entwistle’s Smash Your Head Against the Wall count?

    3. Neil Young’s Dead Man soundtrack.

    4. Let’s see: Alan Parsons, Geoff Emerick, the guy who did the early Pink Floyd albums – Norman someone – Smith?, Ken somebody – the ‘other engineer’ who seems to be at odds with Emerick, Chris Thomas, John Leckie(???)… That’s not 8, so the answer to the question is no.

    5. The day he turned over ‘This Diamond Ring’ to Gerry and the Pacemakers – or whatever band it was that covered that song.

    6. Phil Collins (the drummer)

  9. Mr. Moderator

    Good answers, so far. dbuskirk, I couldn’t agree more with your beef with James “Blood” Ulmer’s transformation into Authentic Blues Man. Great 48, excellent point about Tork and The Monkees! Gotta love that Johanssen choice.

  10. It just occurred to me that David Johanssen doing the Harry Smith stuff is pretty weird.

    He was the first one I thought of, though I don’t think he’s technically a bluesman on that Harry Smiths album from what I’ve read(more folksy perhaps). To be completely fair, though, I actually haven’t heard it, but a friend did let me borrow it, so I’ll give it a listen and report back.

    Also, does Albert Ayler’s late ’60s transformation from outre free jazz innovator to something more resembling the more accessible r’n’b of the time (though of course only by his standards) count?

  11. Oh I forgot to answer these:

    What’s your favorite primarily instrumental soundtrack album by a rock ‘n roll artist?

    Joe Strummer’s soundtrack to the movie Walker.

    Who’s your favorite musician in a band you otherwise can’t stand?

    I have to go with Greg Lake in ELP, primarily for his contribution to King Crimson.

  12. Who’s your favorite musician in a band you otherwise can’t stand?

    I just thought of another one (sorry for the multiple posts). John Frusciante from the Red Hot Chili Peppers is another good candidate here.

  13. I agree with Berlyant – John Frusciante is the best thing about the Peppers…There is an article about him in the the latest TapeOP magazine I just got. Will be reading it this weekend.

    Oh – any other Townsfolks going to the AES show in NYC this weekend? I’ll be there Friday.

  14. 2000 Man

    Is there any former pop musician to have actually turned to Da Blooz (or some other pre-rock form of folk music) who makes less sense than Peter Tork? I just heard him call into one of our local sport-talk radio shows, in large part to promote his upcoming area show as a “Chicago Blues” act.

    Steven Seagal. He’s no more or less qualified to sing Da Blooz than just about any other “entertainer.” And the end result is equally crappy, proving that to be a psuedo bluesman can come from any walk of psuedo entertainment.

    Which noted ’70s sideman made the best solo album?

    Steve Hunter – Swept Away.

    What’s your favorite primarily instrumental soundtrack album by a rock ‘n roll artist?

    I don’t like soundtrack albums. I just don’t.

    Quick: Can you name 8 Beatles-related engineers who would go on to produce successful albums in their own right?

    Quick? I couldn’t do it if you gave me time. I don’t even know who any of their engineers were. Some Beatles fan, huh?

    Outside of his organ part on “Like a Rolling Stone”, what’s your favorite Al Kooper moment?

    I’m with BigSteve. I like the french horn on You Can’t Always Get What You Want a lot. I’ve got a version without the Carbuncle Choir that I think is the way they should have released it.

    Who’s your favorite musician in a band you otherwise can’t stand?

    Steve Howe. I loved Yes up until about 1980 (I still like them, but not like when I was a kid). But Asia was godawful.

  15. Steven Seagal. He’s no more or less qualified to sing Da Blooz than just about any other “entertainer.” And the end result is equally crappy, proving that to be a psuedo bluesman can come from any walk of psuedo entertainment.

    That’s cheating since Steven Seagal wasn’t known for being a musician (and still isn’t) before releasing that stuff a few years ago. I might as well throw in Bruce Willis’ Bruno persona into this discussion then.

  16. saturnismine

    “Is there any former pop musician to have actually turned to Da Blooz…”

    what about Neil Young? i love him and all that, but i thought his blues album sucked enormous quantities of ass.

    “Which noted ’70s sideman made the best solo album?”

    none of them. are you kidding me? you want me to cast a vote for rick wright’s “wet dream” or nils lofgren’s album where he performs acrobatics or something? sheesh did andy fairweather lowe make an album? gee, i’ll bet that was GREAT. forget it. you can’t make me do it unless i can cast a vote for the ronnie lane / pete townshend album.

    “What’s your favorite primarily instrumental soundtrack album by a rock ‘n roll artist?”

    death wish II!

    “Quick: Can you name 8 Beatles-related engineers who would go on to produce successful albums in their own right?”

    oh hell…the ones that have been named, sure. eddie kramer did beatles sessions, too, I believe. who “engineered” when phil spector inherited the “get back tapes”? does he count? what about those jeff lynne sessions, huh? the magic was surely in the air during those jeff lynne sessions, too, huh?

    “Outside of his organ part on “Like a Rolling Stone”, what’s your favorite Al Kooper moment?”

    he wrote “this diamond ring”, right? pretty cool. that blues project double cd retrospective is pretty hot right on down the line. hard to choose between those songs…when i joined the o. sins for a few gigs, we covered “wake me shake me”, which was a blast. but i’m gonna go pop on this one : “this diamond ring” it is.

    “Who’s your favorite musician in a band you otherwise can’t stand?”

    hey, what’s so great about that chili peppers guy? what am i missing? enlighten me.

    admittedly, i tend not to bother finding out the details of bands i can’t stand. like, *maybe* the drummer for the moody blues was awesome, but hell if i know about it.

    however, i DO tend to notice the ONE member of the band who’s surrounded by nincompoops if i see a horrible band play at a club.

  17. 2000 Man

    That’s cheating since Steven Seagal wasn’t known for being a musician (and still isn’t) before releasing that stuff a few years ago. I might as well throw in Bruce Willis’ Bruno persona into this discussion then.

    Yeah, I’m a cheater. But once Peter Tork got in my head, that was the end of it. Seagal is there to stay. I don’t consider Peter Tork any more of a musician than I do Seagal, and I think Seagal, unlike Bruce Willis, was thinking that if he couldn’t make it in movies, that he had a real legit shot at becoming a blues guy. Willis was obviously dabbling, but I think Seagal was thinking it was a legit option.

    I don’t think Tork gets to be a “musician” any more than Seagal because he was on TV and was working on an unsuccesful career in another musical vein prior to his TV bit. I bet Seagal was every bit as unsuccesful musically prior to his “acting” career.

    But yeah, I’m a cheater.

  18. dbuskirk

    My quick Tork story: I was working at a video store in San Fran when my co-workers said that Tork had come in with his son, who was starting at a local college and signed up for an account. Sure enough, he came back in alone a few days later and was looking around the store when I asked him for help.

    He quickly went on an earnest but awkward tirade about today’s films being too negative. Somebody had recommended GLENGARRY GLENROSS and it depressed him. “I don’t want to see anymore negative movies!” he proclaimed. Long uncomfortable pause. “Have you seen STRICTLY BALLROOM?” I meekly offered. “Now that was great!” he cheered, “there should be more movies like that!”

    My co-worked chalked it up to Peter’s rough career breaks.

  19. Mr. Moderator

    Great Tork story. I’d only heard him interviewed a few times long ago. Hearing him all over sports radio the last 2 days (and not talking a bit about sports), I was fascinated by his combination of wit and storytelling ability (as seen in episodes of The Monkees, as well) and self-centeredness bordering on pompousness. I’m almost curious to know how his music is meant to sound. He actually sounded pretty good singing “God Bless America” at the Phils game today.

  20. alexmagic

    I bet Nesmith likes Glengarry Glen Ross. He would have been a great Dave Moss in a Monkees-mounted production of it.

    I didn’t hear any of the Tork interviews this week, but he’s kinda struck me over the years as one of those guys who goes a little too far out of his way to let everyone know he’s not like the wacky character he’s known for. Not nearly to the same degree, but a bit like the late Michael Richards when he would do talk show appearances back in his Seinfeld heyday.

  21. Not nearly to the same degree, but a bit like the late Michael Richards when he would do talk show appearances back in his Seinfeld heyday.

    As far as I know, Michael Richards is still alive. I mean, I know he completely showed what a racist jackass he is last November, but this statement puzzled me.

  22. alexmagic

    I was speaking figuratively, in regards to his now defunct career and the self-imposed exile to Cambodia that he’s undertaken as part of his spiritual rebirth.

  23. BigSteve

    Is there any former pop musician to have actually turned to Da Blooz (or some other pre-rock form of folk music) who makes less sense than Peter Tork?

    I’ve got a late entry for this category. I had already suggested David Johansen’s folk music archivist pose as kind of weird, but an article in today’s NYTimes describes his new orchestral suite — http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/arts/music/26comp.html

    What’s next for Mr. Johansen? Gamelan? A Hawaiian album? Tuvan throat singing?

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