You didn’t know there was a fourth Baldwin brother, did you?
The All-Star Jam is the place where you can do your thing, unencumbered by considerations of the proper jeans choices by the offspring of famous rock ‘n rollers.
These thoughts didn’t exactly fit into the following thread “Songs that Should Have Been Original TV Theme Songs” so I’ll throw down here.
First song to pop into my head was Sting’s “Fields of Gold.” Then I tried unsuccessfully (Gott sei dank) to contemplate an appropriate TV show and realized that it’s more tailored to a commercial. And after thinking, “Hey, that could be a song for a feminine hygiene product,” I quickly realized, “Naw, it’s only a song *from* a feminine hygiene product.”
Then I enjoyed a ten minute extended jam in my head of my All-Time Fave TV Theme song, the outro to “WKRP in Cincinnati.”
THIS is what I was talking about a few weeks ago, regarding that Dylan reissue/milking. White Light/White Heat should only be the album it is. No bonus bullshit. No attempts at making believe it’s a “GREAT” album that everyone should own. It should always be an album that only self-deluded “cool” people sincerely dig. I include myself in that pathetic group, and I don’t want any Johnny Come Latelys sinking our little boat.
I knew it was the perfect example of what you were thinking of but I was too lazy to head back and find that thread and so put it here in All Star Jam.
And I just checked out amazon – the price of this one is $97. For three discs.
And come on, 45th Anniversary? I assume they figure they can’t wait until the 50th. Either the people who would buy it will be dead or the CD format will be even deader than it is now or both. I expect we will see the 44th Anniversary of Loaded in 2014.
Me, I’m holding out for the deluxe Squeeze, when Doug Yule finally gets his day.
Ok, I mostly agree with you, but on the other hand, as a fan of VU, if this extra material were such that it caused a complete reevaluation of what the band was doing (which, in this case, I very much doubt, but theoretically), am I supposed to not be interested? A better analogy to the Dylan bootleg series might be the VU lp: it is probably my favorite record of theirs (along with the 3rd lp).
Sure, I’d be interested too. But here we’ve got one disc which is the stereo album and one disc which is the mono version with a small number of alternates and a couple unreleased songs. The third disc is a concert from April 1967. That’s it, for $90 odd bucks.
It’s like the deluxe version of the latest Bootleg Series or the Tell Tale Heart one where you could get the basic version cheap but paid dearly for the bonus discs but here there’s no cheap version.
Nobody’s forcing anybody to buy it but it is faintly malodorous.
I can’t even count the number of alternate versions and unreleased tracks that I’ve heard on various box sets over the years. The only song that’s ever made it into regular rotation for me is Radio Sweetheart by Elvis Costello. The idea of them seems interesting, but seldom actually is.
The price should be $197 to ensure that actually cool folk aren’t tempted to spend a dime on the thing and to weed out the most uncool folk who would be stupid enough to pay for that crap. I’m still pissed at that first CD in the VU box set, the earliest recordings with that Angus guy banging out lame rhythms on a copy of the Oxford English Dictionary, or whatever that crap was. That was the kind of stuff that the bootleg market was meant to handle. That’s why we are enabled to download that stuff for free thanks to the one fool who made the mistake of dropping $20 on the bootleg lp of Angus McCracken playing drums on the first studio apartment rehearsal by the nascent VU. Enough!
I agree with you about the 1st disc of the VU box. Not interesting. On the other hand, quite a bit of the VU “Bootleg Series” (aka Quine tapes) is revelatory. If lo-fi. “Follow the Leader”–killer stuff.
Yeah, I think you’re mostly right there. I do like how The Stones did their bonus disks for Exile and Some Girls. They went and finished the songs, and just made them a total bonus disk, so it doesn’t seem to get in the way of the original. The cool thing is that both of those bonus disks are really pretty good one their own, and songs like Plundered My Soul, Dancing in the Light, Keep Up Blues and We Had It All are really cool in their own right.
If the new VU box doesn’t have an 80 minute version of Sister Ray, then fuck ’em.
These thoughts didn’t exactly fit into the following thread “Songs that Should Have Been Original TV Theme Songs” so I’ll throw down here.
First song to pop into my head was Sting’s “Fields of Gold.” Then I tried unsuccessfully (Gott sei dank) to contemplate an appropriate TV show and realized that it’s more tailored to a commercial. And after thinking, “Hey, that could be a song for a feminine hygiene product,” I quickly realized, “Naw, it’s only a song *from* a feminine hygiene product.”
Then I enjoyed a ten minute extended jam in my head of my All-Time Fave TV Theme song, the outro to “WKRP in Cincinnati.”
“WENT TO THE BLAH AND THE BLAH UNH BAH BAH DAM!”
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Are you ready for three discs of White Light/White Heat? Super Duper Deluxe 45th Anniversary set coming December 3.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-velvet-underground-to-reissue-white-light-white-heat-20131001#ixzz2gZGWX6ma
Don’t you know it’s gonna make me insane…
THIS is what I was talking about a few weeks ago, regarding that Dylan reissue/milking. White Light/White Heat should only be the album it is. No bonus bullshit. No attempts at making believe it’s a “GREAT” album that everyone should own. It should always be an album that only self-deluded “cool” people sincerely dig. I include myself in that pathetic group, and I don’t want any Johnny Come Latelys sinking our little boat.
I knew it was the perfect example of what you were thinking of but I was too lazy to head back and find that thread and so put it here in All Star Jam.
And I just checked out amazon – the price of this one is $97. For three discs.
And come on, 45th Anniversary? I assume they figure they can’t wait until the 50th. Either the people who would buy it will be dead or the CD format will be even deader than it is now or both. I expect we will see the 44th Anniversary of Loaded in 2014.
Me, I’m holding out for the deluxe Squeeze, when Doug Yule finally gets his day.
Ok, I mostly agree with you, but on the other hand, as a fan of VU, if this extra material were such that it caused a complete reevaluation of what the band was doing (which, in this case, I very much doubt, but theoretically), am I supposed to not be interested? A better analogy to the Dylan bootleg series might be the VU lp: it is probably my favorite record of theirs (along with the 3rd lp).
Sure, I’d be interested too. But here we’ve got one disc which is the stereo album and one disc which is the mono version with a small number of alternates and a couple unreleased songs. The third disc is a concert from April 1967. That’s it, for $90 odd bucks.
It’s like the deluxe version of the latest Bootleg Series or the Tell Tale Heart one where you could get the basic version cheap but paid dearly for the bonus discs but here there’s no cheap version.
Nobody’s forcing anybody to buy it but it is faintly malodorous.
http://www.amazon.com/White-Light-Heat-3CD-Anniversary/dp/tracks/B00FH3UI66/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1
I can’t even count the number of alternate versions and unreleased tracks that I’ve heard on various box sets over the years. The only song that’s ever made it into regular rotation for me is Radio Sweetheart by Elvis Costello. The idea of them seems interesting, but seldom actually is.
The price should be $197 to ensure that actually cool folk aren’t tempted to spend a dime on the thing and to weed out the most uncool folk who would be stupid enough to pay for that crap. I’m still pissed at that first CD in the VU box set, the earliest recordings with that Angus guy banging out lame rhythms on a copy of the Oxford English Dictionary, or whatever that crap was. That was the kind of stuff that the bootleg market was meant to handle. That’s why we are enabled to download that stuff for free thanks to the one fool who made the mistake of dropping $20 on the bootleg lp of Angus McCracken playing drums on the first studio apartment rehearsal by the nascent VU. Enough!
I agree with you about the 1st disc of the VU box. Not interesting. On the other hand, quite a bit of the VU “Bootleg Series” (aka Quine tapes) is revelatory. If lo-fi. “Follow the Leader”–killer stuff.
Yeah, I think you’re mostly right there. I do like how The Stones did their bonus disks for Exile and Some Girls. They went and finished the songs, and just made them a total bonus disk, so it doesn’t seem to get in the way of the original. The cool thing is that both of those bonus disks are really pretty good one their own, and songs like Plundered My Soul, Dancing in the Light, Keep Up Blues and We Had It All are really cool in their own right.
If the new VU box doesn’t have an 80 minute version of Sister Ray, then fuck ’em.
I was so temped to buy those Quine recordings because it all seemed so right. I was being cheap, in this case, not cool.