In an expected move Townsman Mockcarr selected John Lennon with the first pick in the 2007 Rock Town Hall Fantasy Rock Band League Draft. The singer-songwriter-guitarist best known for his work with The Beatles and Elephant’s Memory says he looks forward to “starting over.”
The draft is now in session! Please be patient and make your first-round selections in draft order. It is suggested that you copy the latest version of the draft list into the body of your Comment and add your selection in CAPITAL letters following your name.
FIRST ROUND SELECTIONS
1. Mockcarr, GM (4-piece or 5-piece w/keys): JOHN LENNON
2. Ray Cooper Party Machine, Andyr, GM (powerhouse): PETE THOMAS
3. @–}; Hrrundivbakshi, GM (powerhouse): AL JACKSON JR.
4. Geo, GM (5-piece w/keys): PRINCE
5. Saturnismine, GM (bassless 2-piece): ROY WOOD
6. THe Subwoofers, BigSteve, GM (4-piece w/keys): JOHN ENTWHISTLE
7. Meanstom, GM (power trio): JOHN BONHAM
8. American Metal, Sally Cinnamon, GM (powerhouse): KEITH MOON
9. Scottrodgers, GM (5-piece w/keys): KREUTZMAN/HART
10. Afterschool Special; (from Sammy, GM, for 2nd-rounder): BRUCE THOMAS
11. Afterschool Special; Mr. Mod, GM (5-piece w/keys): Roger Daltry
Before making your selections, please consider any trade offers. Trade offers may be conducted offlist or, preferably, onlist. Those not involved in the draft are free to comment on selections, trade rumors, and so forth.
Please manage your salary cap, and please remember that free-agent selections are not allowed until the second round.
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Andyr is on the board…we’ll see if he goes right for Ray Cooper or if he acquires a drummer first. I’d be shocked if he went with another musician.
Point of Clarification regarding sammymaudlin’s organization. Contrary to leaks published on the internets, his group will NOT be called The Ray Cooper Band. It is true the name “Blanket Statement” is being considered but nothing has been finalized.
sammymaudlin said “We are waiting until we have at least one member signed before releasing a band name. We’re not the frickin’ Spice Girls… Although The New Spice Girls has been bandied.”
I’m hearing reports that Ray Cooper has told Ray Cooper Party Band GM Andyr that he’s considering sitting out this year’s draft unless he’s given a contract comparable with that of a star guitarist or vocalist. Cooper has been complaining for years that he’s underpaid and undervalued because he’s a percussionist.
I’m waitin’!!!!
Yeah, this would go a LOT QUICKER if certain lead singers for certain aging rockers in bands with retro Monkees sensibilities actually *used* their draft picks. At what point do folks forfeit?
mr. mod…
are we limited to the names on the talent pool?
they’re so old, they fart dust.
art
Man, Art, read the rules. You’re limited to the names on the talent pool unless…ummmm, let me see now…you forfeit the next two, the previous…you trade up, over…ummm. Well yeah, just read the rules.
Grumpy Old Townsmen,
Andyr is working on his pick. Considering that he probably won’t be the last person to have a life at some point during this important process, why don’t we let it ride until the morning. He usually logs on after 11:00 pm.
First round: You must pick from the pool.
Second round and beyond: You may sign a free agent (ie, someone not in the Talent Pool). If you do so, you forfeit picks in the next 2 rounds. Considering that the GM who most finds it necessary to moan about the rules when he hasn’t studied them is building a 2-person band without a bass, free agency should not cut into the $1.3 million budget.
Here’s a tip: There’s nothing to stop you from trading out of the first round. You could then start the second round fresh, with a free agent signing, unencumbered by some old fart or the bassist with the Munchkin hair from Death Cab for Cutie.
Here’s and a trade offer, cranky, rules-resistant GM Art: I’ll trade you my second-round pick (22nd overall) for your first-round pick. Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Can you all start a whole other website for this shit? It addresses a whole other mental illness which, while clearly a cry for various kinds of help well beyond my abilities, is entirely unrelated to the syndrome which originally drew me here. I don’t even posses the familiarity with related dweeby pursuits I would use in order to lampoon their jargons while mocking you. *That’s* how far afield this is.
General, I’m sorry this annoys you so, but I feel a responsibility to help Townspeople cry out for a full range of help. As you know, the only thing I discourage is the straight posting of lists (eg, link to Good Housekeeping’s 100 Top Guitarists). That’s not a cry for help but screen.
Now, once Townsman Andyr makes his choice, I’m sure we’ll whiz through this first round.
Art, conisder my offer. Other GMs, I’m dangling my second-round pick for any of your first-roound picks.
mr. mod,
thanks for the offer.
but as i thought i made clear, my objections are not with my draft placement, they are with the selection we have: mostly mid-tier relics from the waning years of rock’s glory era.
if the rest of rth feels that this is such a great talent pool, then my wish to go outside of it in both rounds only increases their chances of getting the moldy oldy rocker they so covet.
i’ll stand pat.
art
mr. mod,
before you jump to the conclusion that i don’t “get” your offer (for me to trade down so that i can have 2 second round picks), let me be clear: i get it, and i appreciate your generosity…but i also don’t want all hell to break loose.
this is all in fun, so i’m willing to maintain…
art
Translation: he doesn’t trust whatever it is you’ve got up your sleeve, and he’s playing to win. Uh what is winning in this game anyway?
Sorry – I was traveling last night to see some shit-hot muscian in Western Mass. A GM’s life is never done.
I’ll have my pick shortly. Do I have any offers to trade down?
no, i meant that if mr. mod let me trade down to round 2 to draft exclusively outside of the (***EXTREMELY LIMITED and RANGELESS***) talent pool, it might blow the doors off the (EXTREMELY FRAGILE) order that the mod has established regarding our little game. others might also want to change the rules after the game has already begun.
since i don’t really give a rat’s ass, and this is just for fun, i don’t want to cause him anymore headaches.
art
With the second pick in the RTH draft – The Ray Cooper Party Band selects…….
Pete Thomas – Drummer
6’2 – 200 Lbs
August 9, 1954
Sheffield, England
Good choice, Andyr, and expected!
Hrrundi is on the board!
By the way, although I appreciate what Art said here:
This is exactly what I hope happens, so don’t feel bad if you contribute to it.
Are you looking for the Bobs? Bob Mould, Bob Schneider (Robert) and Bob Pollard? Or maybe Chan Marshall, Stephen Merritt, Melissa Auf Der Maur, Adam Schlesinger and Chris Collingwood? Is it too late to add some youth? I’m controversially stating this, I know.
If I can keep picking dead guys, can I name my band Callin’ Mouldering?
Drly beloved, u want 2 think u no how @–} will use its precious #1 draft, but u do not. U search 4 greed where there is only (heart). Our #1 draft choice iz the mite-y
Al Jackson Jr.
Thank u 4 the stars,
Thank (heart),
Thank GOD,
@–}
Hrundi, you are cracking me UP!
Nice choice Hrrundi.
Geo’s on the board!
Sally C and others: I’ll tell you what I’m gonna do. I’ll add a few more musicians to give you more options. The rest of the rules apply. You can still trade down, up, or out of a round. Art should know I’m not changing rules on the fly. All this stuff was stated up front. Stay tuned for the updated talent pool.
NOTE: The Talent Pool has been updated. Thanks.
I’m hearing that Andyr and Mr. Mod are discussing a swap of 2nd-round picks.
I won’t deny or confirm the substance of the discussions I’ve had with Andyr, but I will confirm that we spoke on the phone this morning. I’m constantly on my cell phone, taking e-mails from other GMs, etc. It’s my job. My offer to swap my 2nd-round pick for any 1st-round pick stands.
I’ll swap you 1st round for 2nd. Assuming that I understand this correctly, that means that I could take a 2nd round talent and a free agent and still be eligible for 3rd round? Please confirm, the owner is breakin my balls here over cash.
You’ve almost got that right, Sammy. You can draft in the second round using my second pick. You can take a free agent. You still lose you second- and third-round picks. Let me ponder other offers that have been coming in, and let’s keep in touch as we get closer to your first-round pick. Thanks!
I’m gonna be swamped here at work until the end of next week, so I’m gonna have to drop out of the Fantasy Draft. I’ll check in when I can.
We should wait for scottrodgers. This should just take as long as it takes. I doubt that this a priority of anyone here? Or does someone need to pull up the mirror?
Scott and anyone else waiting on, at this point, Geo’s pick (and whatever waiting follows): Feel free to send me, OFFLIST (jim @ groovedisques dot com – you string it together in normal e-mail form), your 3 preferred selections through the end of Round 1. Then, if there’s a delay, I can plug in the best-available pick. Like Sammy says, if we have to wait, we have to wait. You’ve all been subjected to torment already. What’s a little more? Thanks.
The drummer pool is scary thin but…MockCarr and Mr. Mod have impressed upon me the need for someone to take the reins. Before I saw the pale talent pool, I had put together a dream team of unheralded bandmembers that I really liked, but in the end I realized that there was noone included that could be THE guy. Charlie made some choice and it turned my head around. I don’t want that other potential Alpha Dog from the fab four cause I might end up with…Wings. So I’m goin’ with the obvious.
I’m takin’ the short guy with the purple assless pants.
PRINCE
Prince is nabbed by Geo!
Art is on the board.
with the fifth pick in the first round, art will force roy wood to ply his trade with only a drummer in tow.
and don’t think i don’t have another surprise in store…
art
Shocking! I had my eye on him. Congrats.
BigSteve is on the board!
I agree that the drummer pool is sad, and I may be forced to go the free agent route for that throne. My first round pick will be Entwhistle on bass, and my band is going to be called the Subwoofers.
Townsman Tom, you’re on the board!
Sorry, Mr. Mod, but I’ve got a tempermental prima donna who doesn’t understand the concept of free agency and what the trade offs are. The latest note I received read as follows:
? do u mean by this greedyslavetrade… how dare u call it free agency… must we trade r birthrights for the musicians we deserve? Eye no u r better than that… o massa, massa, pleez xplayn y we muss trade in human-it-tea for the (heart) we need.
(heart) GOD,
@–}
So — one more time — how does this free agency thing work? @–} gets to go “offlist” for his desired talent, but forfeits a pick in the next round? What?
No brainer! JOHN BONHAM.
This is the greatest day in our organizatoin.
Nice move, Tom. I was surprised he’d slipped so far.
Sally C is on the board!
One more time re: Free Agency
Round 2 – Free-agent signing may begin. IF you sign a free agent, you lose your pick in that round and the next round. However, if you trade for another band’s pick, you do not lose that pick.
At this point, I would like to see if Sammy is still down with the proposed trade that interested him: My second-round pick for his first-round pick. Say the word and IT’S A DEAL!
Deal. Handshake. We’ll let the lawyers cross the t’s and dot the i’s.
Excellent. Nice doing business with you, Sammy.
Damn I almost took him, and I was hoping he’d last to the 2nd round. Bonham was by all accounts a no brainer.
“My friends call me Keith, but you can call me John.”
And now, put your hands together for…
AMERICAN METAL!!!
(raaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!)
We’ll let Keith get the warm-up set moving and shaking before everyone else comes on stage –
I choose KEITH MOON, and my band name is AMERICAN METAL, our first album is already in process, it is called “Living for Kicks”. Out in Summer 2007 on Bomp. That should be possible with Strat-O-Matic software and the Internet, right?
1. Mockcarr, GM (4-piece or 5-piece w/keys): JOHN LENNON
2. Ray Cooper Party Machine, Andyr, GM (powerhouse): PETE THOMAS
3. @–}; Hrrundivbakshi, GM (powerhouse): AL JACKSON JR.
4. Geo, GM (5-piece w/keys): PRINCE
5. Saturnismine, GM (bassless 2-piece): ROY WOOD
6. THe Subwoofers, BigSteve, GM (4-piece w/keys): JOHN ENTWHISTLE
7. Meanstom, GM (power trio): JOHN BONHAM
8. Sally Cinnamon, GM (powerhouse): KEITH MOON (aka MOON THE LOON)
9. Scottrodgers, GM (5-piece w/keys):
10. Afterschool Special; (from Sammy, GM, for 2nd-rounder):
11. Afterschool Special; Mr. Mod, GM (5-piece w/keys):
I’ve got two Round 2 picks that I’m willing to trade for Round 3 picks. I’ve got scouts in deep- in places that your scouts won’t go, Tikrit etc… Think Manute Bol but… good.
Great picks so far! I’ve yet to hear from Scott. So that we get through the first round as best as possible, we’ll bypass his first pick, I’ll wrap up the round with my two picks, and then we can prepare for the second round. If Scott wants to stay in, come Monday, he’s entitled to a first-round pick on the first round. He’ll resume his normal draft order in the second round.
So, I’m going to make my two first-round picks:
This is not exactly what I’d expected, but using Sammy’s pick, I’m definitely landing the best bassist in the draft: Mr. Bruce Thomas!
Using my own pick, I’m going with my favorite kick-ass vocalist and sometimes actor, Roger Daltry!
I’m going to be out of town for much of this weekend, so let the draft continue without me. Remember, in the second round, free-agent selections are possible! Have fun.
For my first round pick, I’ll take those 2 Grateful Dead drummers, Bill Kreutzmann & Mickey Hart…
Mockcarr is on the board for the first pick in the second round. Enjoy! I’ll update the draft chart tomorrow night.
who said all the great band names were taken? That’s a great one! 🙂
I challenge your band to a basketball game!!! Did anyone see that episode of Chappelle? 🙂 🙂
yeah. and doesn’t prince make them breakfast after he beats them? “would you like some delicious pancakes?”
Soooo funny!! I forgot about that! Okay! Basketball challenge, and then PANCAKES!
well, being a 2piece, my team wouldn’t have much of a shot against your juggernaut, unless, of course, you agree to let roy wood use his otherworldly superpower (the power of ‘weirdness’) to occasionally mystify his opponents on the court.
in fact, it might behoove you to lose: roy can whip up a breakfast that will…ermmm….blow your mind.
ARE WE TALKING STRAWBERRIES ON PANCAKES LACED WITH ACID? Wait, was I yelling? What are we talking here? What kind of crazy pancakes would Roy Wood make?!! Ah, THE POWER OF WEIRDNESS. Sorry, I’ll quiet down. I think that would be a funny basketball game. I can’t imagine Keith Moon being much better of a competitor for your two components, unless he stuck firecrackers in the basketball or something… I can see him laughing now at my diabolical plan.
since i’m limiting roy to playing w/ a drummer only, i’m sure his will be an outlet for his more excessive tendencies: one short stack of orchestral pancakes, comin’ up!
don’t forget that moonie, on the other hand, can always block shots (or execute slam dunks) while swinging from the chandelier. hopefully, he has shed that paunch he developed ca. the mid 70s.
oh…and i almost forgot. roy and i have been hangin’ out, passin’ the jug of red wine and the hash pipe back and forth, listenin’ to tunes and talkin’ over band names…
upon perusing my cd’s and discovering that there’s a heavy assed indie band called “Bad Wizard”, he really wants to call our project “really, really GOOD wizard”.
after listening to them, he claims to be stoked about stripping it down to a few distortion pedals, a coupla huge amps, his voice, some drums, and writing up some really heavy songs of his own.
then again, he IS high as a kite…aint much he AINT stoked about right now.
oh and he’s also managed to levitate himself, and was flying around, hitting his head on the ceiling.
now he’s up in my bedroom berating me for not having any makeup in the house.
what have i gotten myself into?
Hey Sammy – I’ll talk trade with you. e-mail me offline – andyr at groovedisques.